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>> tonight. >> caylee, caylee. >> free at last or is she? will casey anthony ever have a moment of peace? we're live from the jail. >> deserving what they're doing and they're arresting me. i don't understand what's going on. i did nothing. >> rochester police in line or out of control for arresting this woman and this county official, among others. we investigate, you decide. >> in my opinion, you know, we have to get to a point where who oversees the overseer. >> 30 seconds. >> and what was she thinking? attacking a judge, security officers to the rescue. all caught on camera. we talk to the guy who took her down. it's all right now on cnn.
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>> and good evening, everyone. i'm don lemon. we begin tonight with a story that begs a question, what was she thinking? a kentucky woman is in big trouble with the law after she attacks a judge in court. here's her violent outburst. >> miss hardwick, you will be held in contempt of of this court if you become disruptive. >> i don't care. i haven't done anything to this court. >> she'll it be arrested for contempt of court. go now. >> oh, my. court security officer, adam dotson, the man on the left of your screen was the first to reach the woman. her name is melissa hardwick and then he took her down. i talked with him a short while ago and asked what the judge said to make her go ballistic. >> the judge was basically just telling her to stop using foul language and if she will kept using foul language in her court, then she would be held in contempt and face more charges. and the lady was very upset already and she just basically disregarded anything the judge said and continued to talk.
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>> you've been doing this for a while now. have you ever seen anyone react this way, especially towards a judge? >> i have seen people react this way but only in training videos and the training they send us to. but not actually in any courtroom i worked in in the 3 1/2 years i've been there. >> when you grabbed her and you guys finally subdued her. >> was she remorseful, did you have to take her away? what happened? >> she was not remorseful at all, actually. i had to administer it the handcuffs there on the floor and she was resisting arrest the entire time. she was fighting with me and another bailiff tried to hold her feet and she was sort of fighting with him. so we finally got her handcuffed. i picked her up off the floor and walked her out of the courtroom and she was still using foul language and actually made another threatening comment to the judge. >> did you give her any sort of test afterwards, do you know, if she was under the influence at all? did she smell of alcohol? did she seem to be under the influence of something?
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>> she was not under the influence of anything that we could tell. she was just very angry. i think she has a history of these type situations. and she just it in her mind it didn't matter what we done or anything actually. she was just showing disrespect for the court. for my position and she was just disregarding anything we were trying to do. >> yeah, she was there for domestic violence charges against her husband and he watched the whole thing go down, didn't he? >> yes, sir, he was not shown in the video but he was standing just to the left of the woman there. and he watched the whole thing. he actually was standing behind the podium and moved the podium out of the way so we could finish the handcuffing process. >> i can only imagine him saying see, i told you. all right, thank you officer dotson. we're glad you are okay and the judge as well. >> yes, sir, thank you. and in addition to the domestic violence and contempt of court charges, hardwick is now also charged with terrorististic threatening and resisting arrest.
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three journalists are arriving at the orange county florida jail to document casey anthony's release. she could be free in a matter of hours. the question is now, when will it happen? where will she go and can she live anything resembling a normal life when she's freed? those reporters will brief the rest of us on what they saw. jane velez-mitchell hosts "issues"ing with jane velez-mitchell and joins us now from orlando. okay, it could be just moments away, jane. what's going on? >> well, we know there's about 20 protesters outside the orange county jail, don. and they have signs like like rot in hell, burn in hell. there are a lot of people that are very angry with casey anthony, feel she got away with murder as a matter of fact because she was acquitted of the most serious charges and she is scheduled to be released
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sometime after midnight. of course, they could maybe pull a fast one and release her slightly before midnight. as you mentioned she is three journalists, a still photographer, videographer and a journalist reporter are going to go in and look at it and see it and then they're going to come out and tell the rest of the media. there's about 20 satellite trucks outside the jail. so everybody it seems in the entire world wants to see what's going to happen next and what's expected to happen is, she's expected to leave in a caravan of vehicles possibly with tinted windows. you will not see her drive away although obviously, the still photographer and the videographer are going to hope to get a shot of her, at least maybe leaving her jail cell and then she heads to points unknown. it's speculated she might go to one of the three private airports in the area and just take off on a charter jet to points unknown or she could go to orlando international or maybe even miami but is not going to stay here in orlando proper.
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her own attorney jose baez said as much. >> listen, i want to ask you this. we have a live picture from the jail now in orlando where she's expected to be released at any moment and there were protesters. there's a live picture there. you see the media getting ready. there are folks outside as you say. roll some of the protest video. jane, what did you say there was a more sinister one. all profits for murder. boycott all of that. that's going on. i have to ask you this. with all of the attention surrounding this case, is it likely, number one, is she in jeopardy in any way safetywise and can she really have a peaceful moment once she is released? >> well, her own civil attorney has said she has gotten seven credible death threats. so obviously, there's a tremendous security concern. and there is speculation that wherever she goes, she is going to have to go underground and behave much as people who join the witness protection program
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behave, change her name, change her hairstyle. >> jane, one second. i hate to cut you off. we were looking at pictures, that was a pool cameras going inside. we lost it there for a moment. those were the photographers and the reporters walking inside as jane was speaking sorry to cut you off. continue, jane, sorry. >> no, it's happening right now. it's a very dramatic moment. do you realize, don, that it was exactly three years ago today, july 16th, that she was first arrested? so we have all vicariously lived through this saga for three long years. so the timing of it is just sort of eerie. the coincidence of her getting out just a couple of hours after three years to the day she was first arrested. again, they really believe she is going to have to lay low. it's going to be hard for her to do that. she's been in solitary confinement for the last three years mostly, and she's a young
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25-year-old woman who as we know, we learned during the trial likes to party. so the will she be able to adhere the advice of her own attorneys who are undoubtedly telling her, lay low and asking all of us to respect her privacy and then of course, there's the big tv interview, if and when that happens. >> yeah. and jane, you know, it is really amazing to see all of the coverage this has gotten. there you see the protesters in the background on those live pictures and jane is rt roing just from on the other side where all of this is going on. jane velez-mitchell standing by. casey anthony to be released shortly. the reporters are going inside to get pictures of her release. and we will bring it to you. if it happens in this hour. you'll definitely see it on cnn. make sure you stay tuned, the host of "issues"ing with jane velez-mitchell on our sister network hln standing by for us. you can watch it every night at 7:00.
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thank you, jane. >> thank you, don. >> now this from cnn. . >> shame on you! shame on you! shame on you. >> a media king now fighting for his reputation. you'll see rupert murdoch's very public apology and a man who used to work for one of his newspapers talks to cnn about the scandal involving his london paper. did management know what its reporters were doing? and critics say the rochester new york police, the force there has some explaining to do. are they protecting people or is it harassment? and take a look at these nails. how does she function every day? she'll show us later on in this show. you can reach out to us on twitter, facebook, and on four, as well. my book is called "transparent." it's available in e version or anybody books are sold.
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>> shame on you! shame on you! shame on you! shame on you! >> now to the scandal. heads are rolling at his company news corp and murdoch forced to do something he's not used to doing, apologize. he took out gigantic ads in seven british papers today saying we are sorry for the phone hacking scan zal at the news of the world is, the popular tabloid he just shut down and in his own words -- >> well, the scandal is widening to another paper.
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"the sunday times" and now even the fbi is opening an investigation in the united states. the allegations hacking the personal phones of public figures and the not so public from, murder victims to dead war heroes. >> and there is a firestorm, if you like, that is engulfing parts of the media, parts of the police, and indeed, our political system's ability to respond. >> murdoch's news corp, the parent company of the fox news channel also owns 20th century fox movie studios, the fx network, the "new york post," "the wall street journal," harpercollins publishing and probably your local fox affiliate among many others. the charges against the company are criminal and they could have dire implications not only for murdoch and the people under him but for the prime minister himself. david cameron's former communications director andy cole son is also a former editor for the murdoch paper at the center of the scandal. he has been arrested for his alleged role in all of this.
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the question is, what did his former boss, david cameron know and when did he know it. >> let me say once more, if, if i was lied to, if the police were lied to, if the select committee was lied to, it would be be a matter of deep regret and a matter of criminal prosecution. >> order. anybody might think the that orchestrated noise is taking place. order! order, the house will come to order, and these order and these exchanges will continue in an orderly way. mr. ed milliband. >> mr. speaker, the prime minister has just made a very important admission. he has admitted that his chief of staff was given information before the general election that andy cole son had hired a man
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had hired a man jailed for seven years for a criminal conspiracy who made payments -- who made payments to the police on behalf of the "news of the world." this evidence casts serious doubt on mr. could you son's assurances that the phone hacking over which he resigned was an isolated example of illegal activity. do you know what, mr. speaker? do you know what, mr. speaker? i think the public and the victims of this appalling scandal want us to rise above this and deal with the problems that this country faces. >> mr. milliband. >> mr. speaker, he just doesn't get it. he just doesn't get it. >> i'm afraid, mr. speaker, the person who is not getting it is now the leader of the opposition. >> the unfolding firestorm was brought to life by hollywood actor hugh grant, a brit himself
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who secretly taped a former news of the world reporter talking about the unsavory practices that he says everyone in his organization condone and encourage. here's grant taking a very uneasy looking picture with that reporter paul mcmullen. i spoke with mcmullen who said that hacking phones to get information illegally happened all the time at the paper. >> everybody knew, i mean, it started from the time way back in the 90s when you could actually buy a scanner in a shop outside a star's house and actually tape record their entire conversation. when that became illegal to buy a scanner, all you were left with was getting into the voice mail box of the celebrity or the politician or whoever was being targeted. i mean, everybody knew. it was commonplace. it wasn't just -- it was a very common trick. all you had to do was hit nine and put in the pin code. people didn't even change their pin codes from 4-0.
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so the problem is, people got such good results early on, i mean, for one example, a very famous british very cute blonde tv presenter, someone on a fishing expedition hacked her phone, listened to three messages and the last one was the english manager saying darling, we had such a good night last night. when you get that quality of information instead of every now and then, it started to be done routinely and just to the hugh grants and nicole kidmans of the world but to our readers and worse than that, sadly, to you know, the mobile phone of the girl who was, in fact, missing and had died and that's where it really all came to a head because the private detective who did that deleted some of the messages so it looked like her phone had come back to life and her parents, you know. >> okay. so listen, you're talking about
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milly doweller and her family. this is what i want to know. were people as high possibly as rupert murdoch complicit in any of this? would rupert murdoch know about these sorts of practices, people under him know about these sorts of practices? >> yeah, well people under him certainly should have known. when rebekah brooks, his right-hand woman in britain, who gave me my job, she was feature editor and i was looking at the same books we both had. we were spending $4,000 pounds a week on you know, private investigators. doing these kind of practices. it's just extraordinary if she was the department boss who then moved up to to be editor. how could you not notice an expense of over 100,000 a year on this kind of thing and not even ask what it's for. her position is ludicrous. even worse than that, for her to turn round and initially andy could youson turn around and say
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we didn't know about it, it was a rogue reporter acting on his own and now five reporters have been arrested, i've been invited into scotland yard to be arrested three times and they were still saying, we didn't know. it was just the reporters acting on their own. >> rupert murdoch and his son james and rebekah brooks have agreed to testify tuesday at a hearing on the scandal. stay tuned to cnn. a government plan that actually worked? how do you shutdown one of the nation's busiest roadways and not cause much trouble?
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this is going to be tied up all day and all night. they say people who have road rage bring extra ammunition. >> yes, we were all led to believe that the roads in los angeles would be some kind of gridlock hell scape right about now all because of a ten-mile stretch of the 405, one of the busiest freeways in the country is shut down this weekend. but the so-called carmageddon isn't that bad right now. crews are replacing a bridge over the highway. the bridge is scheduled to reopen on monday. so it seems like the warnings worked. but some people didn't have a chance like the couple you're about to meet as our thelma gutierrez tells us, carmageddon just happened to fall on the happiest day of their lives. >> i'm chris. i'm the bride. i'm about to get married in santa monica. >> i'm russ and i hope to make it to the church on time. >> we're getting married july 16th. >> also known as carmageddon.
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>> you guys are asking your guests to come in to the city on the worst day ever. >> yes. >> to pull it off, everyone from the bride and groom in los angeles to the best man in fresno, guests in riverside, camryio and huntington beach, even the photographer in venice were prepared to navigate what was being billed as the worst traffic jam in l.a. history, two to, as the ong says, get to the church on time ♪ get me to the church get me to the church, for pete's sake get me to the church on time ♪ >> going, i'll say two miles per hour. >> we have two hours to get to the saint monica catholic church in santa monica which is smack in the middle of the freeway closure. they warn guests of the ten-mile long freeway closure on their website. >> i got here three days early
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so i wouldn't be late for the wedding. >> i'm starting out my journey going to the wedding over in santa monica. >> i've given myself 2 1/2 hours to get to where the bride is getting ready. a drive that normally takes 20 minutes. >> on the way to his own wedding, russ posted trafficup dates on twitter from the city bus. >> local streets are losing the battle. freeway's clear. >> as the bride made her way to the church, a surprise. >> how would you describe the traffic right now? >> you know what, i'm even more excited because it's looking like the roads are moving and i'm hearing 405 is green. >> a couple of cars, a bus load of groomsmen and the bride's limo all at the church way, way early. >> i made it. ♪ >> thelma gutierrez, cnn, california.
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i was standing in my front yard. concerned about what was going on in my neighborhood and you're arresting me. what the hell is going on? >> tonight, we go in depth about the story behind this video. when rochester police put the cuffs on emily good, they set off a national debate, monitoring police versus public safety. the woman was arrested for obstructing government administration after she recorded police making a traffic stop. her charges were now stopped. citizens now feel bolder to intervene which puts everyone at risk. susan candiotti is on the story. >> emily good was unwinding at home late one night in the may when she and a friend noticed police top a car in front of her house. as the police where is questioning the car's occupants, the 28-year-old community org izer was questioning why and hit
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the record button on her ipod. >> i wanted to see what they were doing to this young man. >> do you guys need something. >> this is my front yard. i'm just recording what you're doing. it's my right. >> actually, not from the sidewalk. >> this is my yard. >> speaking with police officer mario mario masic. >> i had my feet barely on the sidewalk like this. he told me you can't watch from the sidewalk so i stepped back just one step so i was entirely on the lawn. he said you're not even backing up. and i said, would you like me to take a step back? i will take a step back. i stepped back further. >> okay, listen, i'm not going to explain myself to you. you're going to end up going to jail. i'm trying to give you a warning, okay? >> i'm going to back up. >> you know what? you're going to go to jail. this is not right.
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no, no, stay right here. >> i'm sorry. >> she dropped the ipod, her friend picked it up and kept rolling. >> i'm observing what they're doing and they're arresting me. i don't understand what's going on. i did nothing. i did nothing. >> not doing anything. >> what in the world? i'm sorry. i was standing in my front yard. concerned about what was going on in my neighborhood. >> she was charged with obstruction of governmental administration. a misdemeanor. police officer ma is sic is not allowed to speak publicly about the case but the head of his union says the issue is not that emily good was shooting video. >> the issue here is the officer's attention was distracted from a very potentially very dangerous situation. all she had to do was comply. go up on her porch, go into her house for her own safety. >> police chief james shepherd says safety is a key issue but admits citizens have a right to shoot video in a public place. >> i don't think it was a filming issue.
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i think that if that were the issue, the film would have been confiscated. i don't think that's the case. >> emily good sees her arrest as an attempt to intimidate residents. >> even though the police insist that the filming isn't what got me arrested, it doesn't make sense that you know, my taller male friend was never given any orders, was never even spoken to and he was much more i guess menacing looking. he was fully dressed. i was in pajamases. it seems to me like the camera was the variable. >> the rochester prosecutor's office later dropped the charge against emily good. however, questions involving the rochester police and video recording are still very much in play. on the same night emily good was cleared, a supporter of hers, resident warren barnes, recorded police officers stopping several men in his neighborhood. >> what are you being detained for? >> you can hear barnes speaking out to the young men being questioned.
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>> what are you guys being detained for? what are they being detained for, officer? >> the men were released and barnes approached the police officers. >> can i have your lieutenant's name? can i have your lieutenant's name, sir can i have your business card so i know who interacted with these boyce. >> barnes says he did not record what happened next. >> i walked across the street like this gentleman is about to do. they will sped across the street and said, jaywalking. we got you on camera jaywalking. barnes was ticketed for not using a crosswalk. later changed to disorderly conduct and obstructing traffic. other charges followed, including weapons possession. what barnes said was a utility knife. and marijuana possession. barnes pleaded not guilty to the charges but says the jaywalking ticket was a way of punishing him for making the recording. police chief james shepherd says jaywalking is a violation of traffic law and led to other charges. >> there were a number of other issues involved in that case. one was possession of a weapon.
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there was also contraband that was seized by the police department. that also resulted in that arrest. >> on youtube, video shows another incident that community activists call purely retaliatory. while emily good supporters were inside a meeting, police took out rulers and issued parking tickets to any car more than 12 inches from the curb. rochester police chief james shepherd says in each of the cases, his officers were enforcing the law. >> however, in the spirit of the law, maybe they take it a little bit too far. that's yet to be determined. we'll look at all that in terms of our internal investigation. >> rochester mayor thomas richards is waiting for the results of all the internal investigations. >> we're going to look at whether there's a pattern of arrests here. whether there's a pattern of arrests here that would indicate that this kind of arrest is being somehow abused. >> emily good says she's been arrested several times over the last couple of years for civil disobedience.
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most recently at a local protest against foreclosure and she's convinced that the law is on her side in terms of recording police activity. good and her supporters vow to keep cameras rolling. >> it has a powerful role in you know telling the officers that not only are we watching this, but you know, potentially the whole world is watching this. >> susan candiotti, cnn new york. >> up next, we'll hear from a man who says he was harassed by rochester police. he's also a city firefighter and a county legislate tore.
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continuing now, our in-depth coverage confident rochester police incident. i spoke with firefighter and monroe county legislator willy. he was arrested. he says he was intervening because an officer was making a threat. officers charged him with multiple offenses and he eventually pled guilty to dui. he says there was good reason to cut a deal. >> i took the plea because i couldn't afford to go to trial like many people in my community. and also because of my job if i was convicted of obstruction of government administration, i would have been terminated from my employment. >> okay. so we reached out to rochester police about your situation. and they didn't want to make any further comments but earlier chief shepherd told whamtv that he encouraged you to continue
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the complaint process, mr. lightfoot, but you dropped your complaint against the police. why did you do it. >> sir, when i went 0 make my complaint about three or four days after the incident happened, i was sitting giving my complaint, the person i was giving my complaint to was in constant defense of the individual officers. i didn't feel confident in their internal process. >> since it began, police behavior has gotten better because people are watching officers more closely or has it gotten worse because officers are angry now. >> which is it? >> i'm getting numerous calls from constituents in my community and people in the neighborhood, especially an gistent to that i represent. many people are saying they're constantly being harassed. when i say harassed, i believe that the way that the police department treats african-americans m this community supposed to caucasians is a different approach. they're much more aggressive than they are when they're approaching a caucasian resident supposed to an african-american resident.
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and so i'm hearing nothing but complaints from people in the city. >> okay, so mr. lightfoot, that was the reason that emily good said ta she recorded that video in her front yard because she was concerned about racial profiling and police harassment. do you believe that this is a systemic problem with rochester police? >> absolutely. i believe that. i was a victim of that myself. i was driven around for four hours when asked to go to the bathroom, i was told to urinate on myself. i was never told why i was arrested. i was treated like a common criminal and thug and basically, i've been nothing but an upstanding citizen in this community. i'm a two-time war veteran. you know, i'm an upstanding citizen, business owner and i came to the aid of a young man who was in handcuffs being threatened. i thought that that was wrong. >> okay. how do you -- you heard the police chief say, you know, you can't be intervening in police work. if an officer asks you to do something, you should abide by
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that, especially if the officer doesn't feel safe. does that explanation, is that enough for you and for the citizens of rochester? >> well, i think that you have to definitely uphold the law and we have to let them do their job. if you look at my video, it was said before my video came out that i was actingly jer rant but when you see the video, you see me trying to help the officer find the individual he was looking for. in my opinion, we have to get a point where who oversees the overseer and no, i don't think it's enough because they're sworn in to uphold the law. if they're sworn in to tell the truth, they have to be accountable, as well. >> our thanks to willy lightfoot. we did ask for the police chief and mayor to join us tonight, but they declined. everyone's looking for ways to help the economy. next, we'll talk to a man who has an idea how to get more money to communities that need it. you'll hear his plan coming up.
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>> in tonight's what matters an, our partnership with "essence" magazine, a national movement is under way to help some of those hit hardest in depressed times. minority groups. it's called the people's economic movement. talk show host warren ballantine joins me by phone. what's going on? you were behind this. people save pone so banks can loan more money out? >> well, don, thanks to the national bankers association, they've agreed to match dollar for dollar what we put in the bank. in the spirit of dr. king with the memorial coming up. they're going to literally lend this money out to people all across the country to try to create job creation, home ownership, education and the great thing about it is, they're not asking anybody to give money, just asking them to open up a bank account. >> there has been money already that has transferred. how much are we talking about?
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give us a breakdown how much has been matched, as well. >> what's happened already, did i a national campaign with farmers bank out of north carolina for one year. we put over $1 million in that bank. they matched that $1 million and they're doing great things in the state of north carolina. that's how this movement came into be with all of the association of -- which is the national bankers association across the country and literally, you know, we're asking every bank in the country to be a part of this. we're asking churches. celebrities, and the community to ep up and say look, let's save ourselves. >> this is about creating wealth you said in minority communities hit hardest really by unemployment. understand as well that you have approval from the white house. is that what you're trying to do, build wealth here? >> i'm trying to give opportunity here and set up a platform here along with the national bankers association to give people an opportunity to have a chance to create job creation in this country because that's what we need right now.
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i mean, look, unemployment is at 9.2%. 16% in the african-american community, 40% for teenagers in this country. right now, you know we may have come here in different ships but right now we're in the same boat. we talk about racism in this country but classism is what we need to be talking about because poverty does not ceclor. >> again, you have the approval of the white house? >> the white house did say that they liked what we were doing and that they would support it wholeheartedly. >> how can people participate? >> they can go to the national, org, excuse me. i'll be talking about it on my website and hopefully, we'll have more interaction with you as we lead up till the august date. we're asking everybody to participate because we're not asking you to give money, just open an account so the banks can match that money and these banks weren't part of the bailout, they weren't part of the toxic loans that took place. these are responsible banks in our community.
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>> national or the truth warren ballentine, thank you, sir. >> thank you don. >> it's something all of us do, cut our nails. maybe not all of us. you'll meet a lady with 26-inch finger nails but first, hit hard by the recession, this week's cnn hero turned to her backyard to put food on her dinner table. holly hirsch berg decided she needed to help other families, too. >> i love the united states. i think it's a wonderful place to live. scary to me with so much abundance, that people are hungry. in 2008, my husband lost his job. it was a very, very difficult time and the first thing we did was plant a garden. if you grow your own food, you never have to worry how you're going to feed your family. we thought if we can help others garden, then we can help them pull themselves up out of poverty. i'm holly hirsch berg and we
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okay, everybody. welcome back. i want to introduce to you jazz, an atlanta woman who's been growing her nails for over 22 years, the longest which is 26 inches long. you heard me. 26 inches long. which one is that one? >> this one. >> that one. i don't want to break them. if i break them, i'm in major trouble. they call you mama jazz. >> right. >> so first, before i ask you how you do stuff because you answered a lot. >> okay. >> big question is why. >> well, i always have been able
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to grow my nails. my father is a pastor. and i couldn't grow them when i was smaller because he told me that i had to find my identity and once i found my identity, i started growing my nails. >> okay. so you've been growing them now for 22 years. when they break, are you like oh, no? >> yes. >> how often do they break? >> not too often. if i break them, i go back to my nail tech and she puts acrylic back on them where it broke and mend them back together. >> so they never break at the base. >> no, never. >> do you have to protect them with something? >> i have acrylic, yes. >> someone asked me on here they said do you have any joint problems because are they heavy? >> no, they're not heavy. >> i got to tell you, that is weird. you have to admit it's weird when people see you. do they have a reaction? do you frighten children ever? >> no, children are my biggest loves one to my nails actually. >> someone says how do you wash
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your hair? >> i have a utensil, hair utensil that i just take and wash my hair with. >> okay. and this is from twitter. okay, how does she sleep and how does she scratch the inside of her ear? >> okay. >> did you see that? >> no problem. >> it goes right in there no problem. >> are there other people -- are you the nail champion? >> i'm not aware that i am, no. >> i remember from years ago, there was a fingernail champion. this is the woman who was a secretary and her nails were that long. what do you do for a living? are you a housewife? >> yes. >> a homemaker? >> yes, that's okay. >> and your kids? >> five kids. >> they're all over there taking pictures and whatever and they're cool with it. >> they're cool with it. do you ever go, okay, enough already? i just want to -- because you have to protect these all the time. do you ever get tired of it. >> no, i don't. because they're just like my family.
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we have a bond. >> all right. would you get mad if i break one and kept it for a souvenir? >> this is priceless. >> mama jazz, thank you very much. >> all right. next we're going to let you in on a little secret. it's a secret dinner party i was invited to. none of us knew who was going to be there or why. and we'll tell you what it's all about coming up next.
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[oinking] [hissing] [ding] announcer: cook foods to the right temperature using a food thermometer. 3,000 americans will die from food poisoning this year. check your steps at all right. if you follow me on twitter you know i am by big foodie.
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i often tweet pictures an of meals and you tweet right back with yours. the's fahd blog called eat tocracy and invied me to exclusive dinner in harlem at the red rooster restaurant called the eatcracy with people from all walks of life discussing issues over a gourmet dinner. ♪ >> with this particular dinner we thought where better than new york city to talk about food's role in cultural identity. we've invited a bunch of people here tonight who have no idea who's going to be here. they didn't know until today
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where it was going to be happening. they just saw cnn eatcracy and said yes, saved the date and we're going to get a cink in their hand and get them talking. >> i'm about to burst to have all of this great food that comes from everywhere but to be having it here at this restaurant just means so much to me. i mean, this is amazing. ♪ >> i just saw a few name cards when i got here like five minutes ago. you guys are pretty good about keeping secrets. ♪ >> nobody's here by accident. they don't know why we picked them, but everybody has an interesting story to tell. >> little card in front of you. i identified myself as and i've been thinking what to put on there, and i'm thinking what i'm going to write down on mine is
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recovering catholic school ex-suburban white girl mutt. i hope everybody here at this table is going to share your story of who you think you are, who you want to be, what you ate, what you thought you were going to be, and how food played into all of this. >> growing up in america, you know, i mean, food for me was probably the easiest thing to understand about like chinese culture growing up, things like that. >> my cultural identity is grits. it's an acronym for girl raised in the south but i'm grits harlem style. >> i eat everything. i eat chitlin's. i love beans all the time and i'm looking at the table and i'm like boiled peanuts. if you're from the south and you know that at the church, everyone has a boiled peanut on plate. it's like a delicacy. >> so my story was, i'm a mysterious american gumbo of love. i'm don lemon at the cnn world


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